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I am new to cookie decorating and am getting frustrated at my messy lines and blotchy looking designs. I know that icing consistency is key, but, if the icing is thin enough to pass through a fine tip it runs, and if I thicken the icing it clogs the tip.

 

I was wondering how long it takes ( I've probably made 6-7 batches of 24 cookies) before I can expect to get the clean, crisp designs that I drool over on this site.

 

Thanks for your help.

Last edited by Julia M. Usher
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Hmm, I'm not entirely sure I understand the problem. Could you attach pictures to the post so that it will become clearer?

And maybe also give the icing recipie you use, how exactly you prepare it, what consistencies you define as thin or thick, how thick the tip you are using is exactly. All of this could be the reason.

 

I normally don't have trouble with clogging, no matter if I use flood consistency or piping consistency icing. So my first guess would be that you don't sieve the icing sugar OR that you allow the surface of the RI do crust and then fill it into your bags. Both of this might cause lumps in the icing and therefore clogging. I've read that filtering your icing through an unused nylon stocking helps to get rid of that. Then you could thick the icing up to the required consistency for piping clean borders without clogging the tip.

 

But I could also be totally wrong and something else causes this, as you don't provide enough information to be sure

Laegwen made a great point about straining your icing, and some wonderful cookier put a how-to video up youtube. I use meringue powder, so I add water to it and let it absorb while I sift my sugar. Then I run the meringue mixture through the seive to catch any clumps before mixing. I use a silicone or rubber spatula to scrape the sides often, and sometimes even spray mist on the sides to keep them wet, because crust forming is the bane of my existence!

I always move the icing to a clean bowl, and lay plastic wrap on the surface of the icing right up to the edge, then use a tight lid or press n' seal to seal the entire bowl as well. When I take some out and color it, I do the same thing in a smaller bowl, using the mister to thin the consistency because it keeps the sides of the bowl wet and crust-free. Get the consistency perfect for what you are piping, and don't let the clogs terrorize you! Have you seen the basic piping and paper cone videos Julia has up on youtube and her blog? She has tons of awesome advice for piping control and proper positioning.

If you don't use them already, consider switching to parchment paper cones. Making and using them seemed really intimidating at first, but after you make just a few, you see how easy they are to control, to make, and to clean up. They fit the hand better, clog less, and are biodegradable. If one does clog, you can just snip off the end and squeeze the remaining icing into a fresh cone. It simplifies everything, and is a lot less expensive than buying extra tips.

If you are getting frustrated by things like tips always clogging, it makes decorating less fun, and can make you tense. Tension is the enemy here, and if you are worried about getting those lines *just right* it's even worse. You want your back, shoulders, arms, wrists, and hands loose and steady. Shake out your arms often to increase blood flow. Remember not to hold your breath when you concentrate (like I do!), lol.

When you practice a little before piping on cookies, your brain makes a hand-eye connection that you need to do your best. Art teachers in drawing classes will often have students spend ten minutes drawing nothing but lines, circles, and simple shapes before starting, because it helps you loosen up and make this connection. If you do this for a few minutes every day, it makes a huge difference. It may feel like wasted time, but it helps so much!

Put on your favorite music, label some sheets of parchment, and practice for a little bit three times a day for several days. Then go back and see how you did. When I tried it, I stumbled across the fact that caffeine was making my hands shake, and that I am not as steady first thing in the morning or if I am hungry. I made straighter lines holding the tip higher from the surface, going slower, and with my chair height adjusted. The biggest suprise was that when I sang along with music (breathing, lol) instead of focusing intensely, I improved immensely. Literally, the harder I tried to be perfect, the worse I did!

You may have completely different quirks, but knowing them makes all the difference. Remember that many of the cookiers posting here are professionals or have been practicing for years, and some have all the best tools and supplies. They may make several dozen of the same cookie design, and only post a photo of the best one. Plus, they made just as many frustrating mistakes in the beginning. Luckily, most of them are generous and want to help you improve. Comparing yourself to the very best while you are still learning can be disheartening.

Don't be too critical of yourself and stay positive! Remember to have fun! You will get better sooner than you think.

I agree with Wildflower. I use cello cones (not parchment cones but they are similar anyway) and they are great! My cello cones are small so I can hold one like a pen. Recently I used tips and piping bags for the first time at Sweetambs' class in Japan and I really struggled with them! At least to me cones are much easier to control.

 

I practiced piping lines a lot on paper or plates until I got the hang of it, not on cookies. I think it was useful and I still like practicing that way.

Originally Posted by mintlemonade(cookie crumbs):

I agree with Wildflower. I use cello cones (not parchment cones but they are similar anyway) and they are great! My cello cones are small so I can hold one like a pen. Recently I used tips and piping bags for the first time at Sweetambs' class in Japan and I really struggled with them! At least to me cones are much easier to control.

 

I practiced piping lines a lot on paper or plates until I got the hang of it, not on cookies. I think it was useful and I still like practicing that way.

Yep, I also avoid using tips whenever possible. A plastic bag with a hole in the required size is much easier to handle in my humble opinion. Additionally it has the advantage that you can use ALL of the icing, whereas the adapter for a tip blocks quite a lot of the material.

 

And I have to say, that I'm turning slightly green of envy. You've been to Amber's class? I've read about it on her blog. I envy her for having been to Japan, and I envy all of you for having been able to go to one of her classes. Thank God green suits me

You have been given some great advice and things to try.

 

I think in the end it does just come down to practice. I remember when first starting out that it was so frustrating to me that I couldn't outline a cookie without the icing line breaking, falling off the edge of the cookie, etc. It looks so easy when you watch other people do it, but it takes quite a while to master. 

 

Don't give up, I am sure your cookies look great and you will be surprised at how your skill improves as you keep practicing.

 

One thing regarding tips and bags, I find that tips, especially PME tips, give me the best results. I've been experimenting going tipless with master piping bags, but I don't like the results I am getting. I am going to keep practicing, but it just goes to show that there are many different ways to ice a cookie and some are going to work better for some people. 

 

Good luck!

Thank you all SO much for your advice and encouragement! It is so helpful. I think I need to try less ambitious projects right now and master basic techniques. And I will try parchment or cello cones instead of tips. I did try straining my icing through a fine sieve and was able to pipe a O tip. 

 

When I get something good I will post. Next weekend I'm making wedoing dress and cake cookies for a bridal shower. Wish me luck!

Originally Posted by mintlemonade(cookie crumbs):

I agree with Wildflower. I use cello cones (not parchment cones but they are similar anyway) and they are great! My cello cones are small so I can hold one like a pen. Recently I used tips and piping bags for the first time at Sweetambs' class in Japan and I really struggled with them! At least to me cones are much easier to control.

 

I practiced piping lines a lot on paper or plates until I got the hang of it, not on cookies. I think it was useful and I still like practicing that way.

This sounds like such a great idea. Thank you for sharing.  Do you use the 12 inch cones or the 18 inch cones?

mb

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